Harold Camping was proved a false prophet (again) when his May 21, 2011 end-of-the-world predictions did not come to fruition. This didn’t stop Camping however, he simply moved his date, and it hasn’t stopped other prophetic speculators from getting in on the action. This edition of Vantage Point is the first in a three part panel discussion on Bible prophecy that aired on a local television station, and features several different viewpoints.
I think Mr. DeMar's explanation was was clearer than those of the others on the panel, who only stated what they believed without even giving any Scripture reference whatsoever, with the exception of Mr. Stover, who merely used Scritpure to justify his view of the Rapture. Mr. DeMar, on the other hand, merely expounded on what was already there (Daniel 9:24-27), which, in my opinion makes more sense. I do not believe Scripture teaches a "rapture" followed by a "7-year tribulation." I am not not follow a preterist position but it does seem to make more sense in a historical context. To be honest, I am not even sure which doctrine I follow. But anyway, I think Mr. DeMar did a wonderful job stating his position.
It should be compulsory for all christians to read the wars of the jews where the 70 ad destruction of the temple is recounted. The descriptions right down to the killing and fires smakes it clear that the language used in Revelation is about this even and is in fact jewish apocalyptic language. After that event Chrstians are to penetrate all levels of society with the goodness of Jesus until he comes back and conquers the final enemy ..death itself.
Good stuff Gary. I love how you get in there and give the preterist position with clarily and yet grace(the deck was sure stacked against you with all those futurists). It is hard, there is a lot of foundation that needs to be laid and (on TV) no real time to do it. Actually any discussion between a futurist and a preterist should begin with how prophecy (especially apocalyptic sections) should be interpreted. For example should the sections that speak of cosmic catastrophe (sun being darkened, stars falling, etc) be taken literally or is it used more symbolically in Scripture (we both know it is the latter) Anyway you know all this. What I really wanted to comment on is what I believe is the inconsistency of saying the gathering in Matt. 24 happened at AD 70 and is different from the "rapture" of 1 Thess. 4 (which most partial prets say happens at the end of time). I find the following link to a chart by Beale to be convincing. Either 1 Thess 4 and Matt. 24-25 are talking about AD 70 or they are both the end of time. It is incosnsitent to say they speak of two different times. See here for the chart: http://books.google.com/books?id=zlyPH_3Pvl4C&pg=PA137&lpg=PA137&dq=beale+Matt+24+1+Thess+4&source=bl&ots=KKwYxRNipe&sig=Q8_5l_Q9JAZ0TwdnITLWlIhY8NM&hl=en&ei=l5Q5TqWnCqbKiAL9_Mz2Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false By the way I would say the rapture is shown in Rev. 11 and that is definitely AD 70. Duncan