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Published on April 6th, 2011 | by Bojidar Marinov

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The True and the False New World Order

“I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.”

Napoleon Bonaparte said these words at the end of his life, while being transported to the island of St. Helena after the ultimate failure of his political efforts to build and maintain an enlightened empire. Napoleon was a little too harsh on himself. In fact, if there was a conqueror in the modern European history that enjoyed the support of the masses of people in the conquered nations, it was him. The Napoleonic Code – the first comprehensive civil law code that abolished privileges based on birth or class – was admired by people throughout the whole continent. Napoleon’s enemies, while controlling populations much larger than France, very often had troubles assembling armies large enough to defeat him. His name was used as a symbol of the struggle against feudal privileges among the depressed masses in Europe even as late as the 1890s. England’s ruling class, his chief adversary in the wars on the Continent, had to deal with his popularity even among their own common people; when in 1818 The Times published a false report for his escape from St. Helena, it was greeted with spontaneous celebrations in London. The British Parliament housed so many admirers and sympathizers of the Emperor of the French that some of them were bold enough to demand in long speeches that he should be treated without unnecessary harshness as a prisoner. Whatever Napoleon said about his own empire, he could certainly brag that more than any other ruler or government head he embodied the ideal of the “enlightened despot,” one who changed history and was loved for it by his own subjects.

What today passes for “New World Order” – the attempts of the modern political elite to establish a worldwide government based on the will of that elite and the unconditional obedience of the “masses,” – Napoleon achieved it. Or, at least, was very close to achieving it, on the European Continent. No one before him and after him was able to subjugate so much of the European territory under the power of one person only. No one was able to consistently defeat superior armies as Napoleon did. No foreign invader was greeted in so many conquered cities and towns by so many enthusiastic “commoners” who saw him as a “liberator” rather than an invader.

And yet, at the end he failed. And not only he failed but he confessed that he based his empire, the “creation of his genius,” on the wrong premise. And then he made a comment about Jesus Christ that can top the list of testimonies ever made for the Christian faith. When he made the statement that “at this hour millions of men would die for him,” the Christian faith was still largely confined to Europe and North America, with very small Christian communities in Asia. Africa had no Christianity to be worth mentioning (in 1900 only 2% of its population was Christian, centered in Ethiopia), India had even less, and China’s Christian population numbered in the 100,000s of a total population of 400 million Chinese.

Less than 200 years later, the world is even more thoroughly Christianized than it was in 1815. If those willing to die for Jesus could be numbered by millions then, today we can talk about hundreds of millions, and the majority of them is not confined to the old centers of Christianity in Europe and North America. The Church of Jesus Christ is spreading throughout the whole earth, and even when it experiences short-term ups and downs for a generation or two, in the final account it keeps emerging victorious over its rivals, the kingdoms of men. If two thousand years ago the church started as a small band of people, and its opponent was a mighty empire spread over three continents and including a multitude of nations, today the Church is a mighty global empire, and its opponents progressively degenerate into smaller and smaller political units, fighting each other for an illusory power that no man or institution will ever be able to achieve. Given the insight Napoleon had in his last years, he wouldn’t be surprised at this outcome. He was a smart man, and learned from history, and from his own experience.

What’s even more interesting is that Napoleon – the man who promised to build a “New Europe” – at the end of his life admitted that his “new” political order was nothing but an old political order, the same that Alexander or Caesar tried to establish. There was nothing “new” in it; the same use of force, the same promises for a Golden Age of humanity, the same promises to “remove the old” and build a new world. Napoleon, the most successful builder of a New World Order, saw clearly that his New World Order is the same Old World Order that tyrants of all ages have been trying to build, and uniformly failed. And they failed in favor of the true Builder and Architect of the true New World Order, Jesus Christ. Again, Napoleon learned from history, and from his own experience.

Strangely, today we have so many Christians who are unable to learn from history, and are unable to learn from experience, and are unable to learn from what the Bible says about history.

My email and my Facebook account are bombarded every day with articles, prophecies, interpretations of events and Biblical verses, with ads for conferences and seminars, all of them “surely” pointing to “evidence” that a “New World Order” is in the making by different conspiracies of the enemies of Christianity and of the West. It is inevitable, they claim, because “we live in the last days,” those last days that the Bible “prophesies” will bring upon us a one-world government, and Antichrist will come and reign for a certain period of time. The names of the conspirators are mentioned, usually the Federal Reserve, Soros, Obama, the European Union, and others. While some of these web-sites and conferences and seminars all promise to throw light on these nefarious workings of the enemy, they also assure me that nothing can be done to stop it; it was “prophesied” that these events will happen, therefore whether I know about them or not, I can’t stop them. Even if the whole church around the world – the millions that would die for Christ – know about them and make the effort to stop the conspiracy of the “New World Order,” they will fail against the small group of almighty mischievous elitists. Had I read all the websites, and had I attended all the conferences and seminars, and had I achieved a perfect knowledge of the workings of the Antichrist and the New World Order, all this information would have been useless to me, as far as specific action is concerned. Nothing can be done, the things just happen, and it is going to be ugly, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it.

Now, I acknowledge that there are conspiracies, and there are attempts by committed anti-Christian elites to destroy Christianity and to establish a one-world government to control the masses of the world. There were such conspiracies in the past too. Alexander and Caesar made such attempts. Genghis Khan made such an attempt. Napoleon and the British Empire, both were committed to establish world dominion by force or by human laws. In the 20th century we had Hitler and Mussolini and Imperial Japan. Communism also emerged as a contestant for world dominion, and Communists were smarter than anyone before them: they based their program for conquest on skillful propaganda rather than brute force. Then we’ve had local dictators that made similar attempts over limited territories. I am sure that such attempts haven’t ceased, whether locally or globally. People will emerge in every century that will try to use whatever resources they have – armies, money, propaganda, political institutions – to gain power, as much as possible.

Knowing these conspiracies have existed and still exist, I know one thing for sure: They will never succeed. The “New World Order” as a pagan construct will never be realized on the Planet Earth, Antichrist or not. Over the centuries, those that wanted to destroy Christianity and replace it with a pagan world rule have been growing weaker and weaker. Even where there were no traces of Christianity in history – Japan, or China, or pre-Columbus empires in Central America – the kingdoms of man have never been able to establish the constant eternal rule they wanted. When Hitler promised the German people that he would establish the Thousand Year Reich, he had no example in history to point to; there was no human kingdom or empire in history that could boast surviving for a thousand years without civil wars and bloody coups every 200 years or so. The longest living human empire was Egypt, in the earliest ages of history; after Egypt, a kingdom should be considered lucky if it lasted for more than a 100 years without a major bloodshed or a violent change in its structure and institutions. No human political effort can succeed anymore, was what Napoleon learned, unless it was based on love; and there is no love where the Spirit of Jesus Christ is not present.

So many Christians today haven’t learned that lesson yet, and they still live in fear, believing that somehow the elite – or the Antichrist – will succeed in establishing what can’t possibly be established anymore, this side of the Resurrection and the Ascension of Jesus Christ.

That false “new world order” – of which Napoleon admitted was just the old world order of the pagan empires – will never and can never be established. Why do I believe so? Because there has been a true New World Order in the world, and it has been here for 20 centuries. It is the New World Order established by Christ at His Resurrection and Ascension; the world order which is ruled and managed by Christ Himself, the Lord of history. Against this New World Order the Jews reacted, wishing to preserve the things as they were, with no challenge against the old customs and the old authorities and powers. It was the same New World Order that the pagan Roman Empire desperately fought against, persecuting those that proclaimed “another King, one Jesus.” Nero, Aurelius, Decius, Diocletian, did not persecute Christians because the Empire envisioned a new world; the persecutions had the express purpose to preserve and conserve the old world against the new faith. It is that New World Order of which Julian the Apostate exclaimed at the end of his life, “Vicisti, Galilaee! You have conquered, O Galilean!”

The early church knew it was ushering in a new era, to destroy the old world. Athanasius, Ambrose, Augustine, Tertullian, Isidore, and many other Church Fathers looked at the pagan world as a dying old corpse that had no power to resist the New World Order of Christ. Isidore postulated a “new era” in history, one that will gradually unfold until the very last day; he called that new era Regnum Christi, the Kingdom of Christ. Europe wouldn’t have been born if Christians didn’t believe that they were the true New World Order, the stone prophesied by Daniel that destroyed the human kingdoms and became a great mountain that filled the whole earth (Dan. 2:34-35, 44-45). There was to be no other human empire to rule the world anymore, because the mountain that destroyed the human kingdoms in the last days of the Roman empire had filled the whole earth and was here to stay, till the day of judgment. The true New World Order was that of Christ, and there could be nothing “newer” than it anymore in history.

It is not surprising that the Renaissance and the Enlightenment did not base their opposition to the world order established by Christianity on an idea for a “new world.” Quite the contrary, both movements wanted to restore the antiquity. The term “middle ages” given to the centuries of Christian dominance in Europe before the French Revolution was a derogatory term but it also revealed the impotence of the philosophes and their followers to create a vision for a new world; all they could come up with was a return to the supposedly golden past of the pre-Christian antiquity. The French Revolutionaries went even farther back in their attempts as they officially restored the polytheism of the primitive past, and instituted official worship of different “gods” and “goddesses” on the streets and the churches of Paris. Marxism, Nazism, and all other anti-Christian movements could find no better foundation for their ideologies than the primitive past of man, before there was private property, or Christianity, or a civilization. Whatever “world order” pagans are trying to inaugurate, it always boils down to a return to the past, and it has no idea of a new world. Even when they use the phrase “New World Order,” in it they mean a return to a previous world order that have existed before, and have been proven lacking. Non-Christians just can’t produce a consistent vision for a future world. When in 1940 H.G. Wells made an attempt to outline such a future world in his essay, The New World Order, the result was such a garbled confusion of incoherent ideas and proposals that no one took it seriously. And when George Orwell in 1984 and Aldus Huxley in The Brave New World described the “new world” that the humanistic totalitarian ideologies can produce, it was a stagnant world without past and future, a world without any concept of time, and vision, and hope for the future. “Was and will make me ill, I take a gramme and only am.

Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 3:22, that “the present and the future,” that is, all history, belong to the Christians. Paganism has no future, and it can produce no vision of the future. No conspiracy, no Antichrist, no world elite can change this Biblical fact. There won’t be any moment in the future of humanity when an anti-Christian elite will rule the planet. The true New World Order has arrived 2,000 years ago, it is Christ’s world order, the Regnum Christi, and it is here to stay, until the whole earth is filled with the knowledge of the Lord.

Therefore, we must reject and expose as unbiblical the panic sown by those who see everywhere the signs of a victorious “New World Order” of an anti-Christian conspiracy. Such attempts will be made but they will never succeed. Our focus must not be on the feeble attempts of mortal men to reverse the course of history set and directed by the Lord of History. Our focus must be on the comprehensive redemption of Jesus Christ; redemption which is stronger than any curse in any aspect of the live of man and of his institutions. The present and the future belong to us, Christians. If Napoleon learned that lesson from history and from his own experience, it’s about time for us to learn it from the Word of God.

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About the Author

A Reformed missionary to his native Bulgaria for over 10 years, Bojidar preaches and teaches doctrines of the Reformation and a comprehensive Biblical worldview. Having founded Bulgarian Reformation Ministries in 2001, he and his team have translated over 30,000 pages of Christian literature about the application of the Law of God in every area of man’s life and society, and published those translations online for free. He has been active in the formation of the Libertarian movement in Bulgaria, a co-founder of the Bulgarian Society for Individual Liberty and its first chairman. If you would like Bojidar to speak to your church, homeschool group or other organization, contact him through his website: http://www.bulgarianreformation.org/



20 Responses to The True and the False New World Order

  1. john cummins says:

    right on brian right on!

    • Joshua vallejos says:

      That was beautiful…. truly well writen.

      no empire or force will over come the Kingdom of heaven.

      knowing this how can i base my faith?

      can jesus really put all his enemys under his feet?

      how many more centruies will pass before the human race gets it right? for nothing new is under the sun.

      What is the purpose of life? it seems that as a christian the return of christ, rapture, anti christ, or One final Judgment is the reason to live, it is the foundation of a faith, it is the explanation of creation.

  2. Winston says:

    The so-called NWO of today is indeed a regurgitation of the secular humanist past, but it is succeeding and will succeed until Christ Jesus returns to destroy it and all those which come against Israel. The author is a Calvinist… “what love is this?”… and the new world order of Jesus’s first coming will succeed but not without global casualties as the Church and “sincere” Biblical (not apostate) believers will endure persecution and even death under the secular humanist (including apostate liberal evangelicals and denominational pseud-Christians) elitists world order. Wait and see. There will be few if any sincere believers to endure the anti-Christ because of the Rapture of the true Church. But many who are left behind to endure, or not, the Great Tribulation will convert to Biblical Christianity… but the rest secular and pseud-believers will enter hell for eternity with their father of lies, Satan.

  3. Peter says:

    The message of hope within this writing is the best thing about it.

  4. E Harris says:

    This is so true.

    Christianity is spreading, victoriously. And the enemy cannot stop it. Even earthly enemies cannot halt it. Political persecution only proves our point (that our enemies are not honest, cannot be trusted, are not loving, and frequently fail). The evidence that people are being changed, is their influence on the broader culture: christian”ized” ideas prevail over overtly pagan ideas, almost every time. Our enemies only prevail by using and twisting the concepts and words of scripture – and that is how they gain support (temporarily). Then God does some pruning, and what is purer remains. And the process goes on.

    We are “pilgrims” in the sense that the kingdom is one that has an invisible Head, who operates in and through His People as a powerful Spirit. This Holy Spirit carries POWER and TRUTH with it. We are not to place too much importance on the physical sword, or physical money, or even physical earth. Everything (ultimately) is important…but it’s about PRIORITY and HEADSHIP. What is MORE important, and what is LESS important? Is life more than food? The body more than clothing? The Person more important than the Body that it incorporates? (And here is where it gets dicey… the Father and the Son. The Father centers all on the Son, but still remains THE HEAD of the Son. Who is ultimately the Sovereign? The Father is. The Son is merely the doorway through which we obey and have access to He who sits on the Throne. The Son is one with the Father, but his human flesh and human mind IS SUBSERVIENT to his spirit, and Father (who is Spirit). There is an essential oneness that cannot be denied. And an essential ORDER of PRIORITY and HEADSHIP…that is invisible, yet more permanent and true than all of man’s brute instruments of commerce & war. The WORD is sharper than any two-edged sword. The WORD infiltrates behind enemy lines, turning enemies into friends. What is needed, is more people who effectively UNDERSTAND THE TERRAIN, and articulate (speak) THE WORD into those situations!! (The Faith of Jesus Christ to the economists, the politicians, the preachers, the marketers, etc.) The harvest is still plentiful (more so!).

    That all being said, Constantine (whatever his personal status with God) was not acting as a “pilgrim” when he called for the “council of Nicaea”. The purpose of that council was merely to get a verdict, a conclusion. The purpose for getting a conclusion, was to force order, with the use (backup) of the sword. It wasn’t “love” that motivated Constantine to call the bishops to Rome. If it was love of God, he would have cared more about the conclusions reached. The conclusion he mildly favored, was one that would have led right back to an emperor-god-on-earth. So, no, it was not a proper understanding of GOD (and truth) that motivated Constantine to call the council of Nicaea. He wasn’t out to “discover” anything. He was out to maintain the unity of the Roman Empire, and buy himself a renewed justification to remain as emperor (the one among the many).

    It was love of humanistic “order” that motivated Constantine. His empire was crumbling. Human order was crumbling, and there were physical enemies at the gates, and he needed a TOOL. Christian faith provided the ideal tool for political SOLIDARITY (with the state remaining ON TOP, as much as humanly possible!!!) It ended up degenerating into raw political mind-control, in some cases. (Politics infiltrates “the church” as well… as wolves among sheep.)

    Constantine’s approach was not a purely Biblical approach. It was subtly anti-christian. The early church did not go around acting like mini-emperors. Nor did they AIM for such an end-goal!!! Our kingdom is not of this world, even though it affects this world. OUR weapons are HIGHER and COMMAND respect even from our enemies. Our more honest enemies are humbled before us, when they see our purity, reasonableness, virtue. They turn to us for advice…like the queen of Sheba to Solomon.

    We often forget that the software (spiritual things) is the reason that the hardware (of the earth) is present. And that the software (information creation & “virtue-inhabitation”) actually forms the hardware, not the other way around.

    All our enemies seem to care about is “stuff, stuff, stuff”. “Tear this down, tear that down.” “MAKE something physical HAPPEN.” Wow. What noble goals. It all ends in futility, if the software isn’t present, to give life and sustenance to the naked & purposeless machinery. Personhood, and all that it is, is SO MUCH GREATER than any physical force of empire, on earth. And God aims to be Personal. He aims for the heart. (And it is from the heart that the mouth speaks, forming strategies, and implementing them, and making tools accordingly.)

    Enemies of truth will always try to abuse & confiscate property. Reasoning is just another ‘tool’ to them. They don’t respect the software. They only want to grab & use the earthly things (the hardware). They don’t understand the void that is at the center of their own nature – they run from seeing it! But when they see the eternal LIFE and LOVE that fills the saints… they are drawn towards it.

  5. Alex Alexander says:

    Wow! Every time I read your articles, Bojidar, I feel so ignorant!
    How does this guy who comes from that insignificant, donkey-cart backwater (apologies to Bulgaria) have such a breathtaking grasp of history, literature, biblical theology, etc?
    And now you’ve whetted my appetitte for Napoleon. What a great final statement from that man.
    What agreat article from Bojidar. Again.
    Alex A
    UK (formerly HQ of the late, great British Empire!)

  6. Cromwell says:

    You should read “God and Gold” by Walter Russel Mead, related to this subject in a way. We have alot to think the Dutch/British and now American version of a ‘world order’ for.

  7. RJ Cain says:

    Yet again, Bo has edified and educated me.

    This is the message that needs to be promulgated!

    There is so much noise and clutter causing truth to be derailed, or maybe put better, sidelined.

    Teachers (shepherds) are not teaching what is necessary for life long term. It all seems to be about personal sanctification and the self. How can I get sanctified in my life, to hell with the future, what does that matter to me.

    Christians are not on the right track and will not be until we get this right and spread like leaven.

    Eschatology matters!

    Robert

  8. Harmon Gottlieb says:

    “Because there has been a true New World Order in the world, and it has been here for 20 centuries. It is the New World Order established by Christ at His Resurrection and Ascension; the world order which is ruled and managed by Christ Himself, the Lord of history.“

    Amen. This is a profound, fundamental truth all Christian need to hold before them as “strangers and pilgrims on the earth (Hebrews 11:13; 1 Peter 2:11).” Thank you for this clear statement of the hope that holds us together.

    • Hebrews 11:13 is about the Old Testament believers, not New Testament Christians. 1 Peter 2:11 doesn’t say Christians are strangers on earth, it only tells them to behave as strangers. A very great difference between Old Testament and New Testament believers, as the contrast between Hebrews 11 and Hebrews 12 clearly shows. To believe you are a stranger on earth is the same as to believe you are an Old Testament believer and to refuse to accept the fact that Christ has all authority ON EARTH. As long as we are under His authority, we are not strangers to any place, even if we are instructed to behave as strangers to the world system and to our fleshly lusts.

      The New World Order Christ has established is comprehensive, that means it includes our personal lives but our cultures too. And just as we are called to be righteous in our personal lives, we are also called to be righteous in our cultural involvement, and that means to change the culture according to the Law of God. A stranger is one who has no power; we are not like those who have no power, we have the Spirit of God.

      • Paul says:

        Amen!

      • Harmon Gottlieb says:

        Hebrews 11:13: “These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 1 Peter 2:11: “Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul.”
        Bojidar: “Peter 2:11 doesn’t say Christians are strangers on earth, it only tells them to behave as strangers.”
        If Hebrews applies “strangers and pilgrims on earth” substantively to the OT patriarchs, then, presumably, Peter is applying it metaphorically to Christians. The phrase “strangers and pilgrims” becomes a behavior modification device for exhorting them to behave like the “strangers and pilgrims” they are not.

        Hebrews 11:16 speaks of the OT patriarchs, “But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city,”
        Hebrews 13:12-14 speaks of NT Christians, “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.”

        Like the concept of Christian “strangers and pilgrims,” the concept of Christians ‘not having a continuing city here’ is a lethal impediment to the Post-Millennial Reconstructionist program–unless we use Bojidar’s ideology-driven language trick: ‘Hebrews 13:14 doesn’t say Christians have no continuing city here’.

        • Hebrew 11:33-34 says of the OT patriarchs, who did not have a city on earth, that being strangers, they

          “…by faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.”

          Conquered kingdoms? Administered justice? Became mighty in war? Put armies to flight? All this by faith, while being “strangers” on the earth, while confessing they had no earthly city?

          Do escapists like Harmon believe New Testament Christians can and should perform such acts of faith? Of course not.

          Hebrews must have been written by one of those ideologically-driven postmillenialists/theonomists. Or, the alternative explanation is that Harmon hasn’t got the foggiest idea what the word “city” means in the context of Hebrews 11-13.

        • Harmon Gottlieb says:

          Your argument, as usual, is with scripture, especially its perfect, ubiquitous preoccupation with the Person and finished work of Christ Jesus.

          Hebrews 11 was written by a Spirit-inspired follower of Christ who recited the trials and achievements of the Old Testament’s faithful saints, not to provide you with a template for contemporary, socio-political activism, but to point to Him who authors and finishes our faith.

          Hebrews 12:1, therefore, concludes the history: “Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.”

          Paul writes, “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.”

          Your own escapist impulse is to strain scripture through an earth-centered, Post-Millennial-Reconstructionist ideology that needs to deny Christians are “strangers and pilgrims” with “no continuing city” here. Consequently, your replies always show you setting your affections “on things on the earth.”

        • Hebrews 11 was written by a Spirit-inspired follower of Christ who recited the trials and achievements of the Old Testament’s faithful saints, not to provide you with a template for contemporary, socio-political activism, but to point to Him who authors and finishes our faith.

          How convenient. First the claim that we are just like the OT saints, strangers and pilgrims; which, in the escapist’s view, means NOT to do certain things, for example, be victorious over the culture and over political earthly authorities. Then it turns out the OT saints WERE victorious over cultures and over political and earthly authorities. Suddenly, Hebrews 11 does NOT anymore apply to Christians in its fullness. It is only conveniently vague, only “pointing” to Christ.

          But the OT saints did these things BY FAITH. So, wasn’t their faith pointing to Christ? Can faith be faith without works? The escapist tells us that the same faith in the NT Christians doesn’t produce the same works (doesn’t provide us with a template, you see).

          To summarize, Hebrews 11 is applicable to Christians only to tell them what NOT to do, but it is not applicable as to what to do. The escapist’s “faith” is a faith of not doing works of faith, only of “pointing.” Well, after we are “pointed” to Christ, what does the escapist do? Nothing. There is no instruction for action in that faith. He can’t even “obtain promises” anymore because it is mentioned in the same verses. So no promises for him either. He can’t me “made strong from weakness” anymore. In short, the escapist can do nothing. Let alone the fact that given the next verses, the escapist shouldn’t even expect to be persecuted. The persecutions of the OT saints are not a “template” you see, they only point to Christ. The escapist’s “faith,” applied consistently, leaves him to an empty life here on earth.

          Here is the conclusion of the confusion:

          Consequently, your replies always show you setting your affections “on things on the earth.”

          Really? Only because, together with the OT saints, I believe that our faith requires dispensing justice? But what does Hebrews 11 say about the OT saints? “They desired a heavenly country”! And at the same time, they conquered kingdoms and dispensed justice and defeated armies! So, is there a contradiction? Not in the Bible. Only in the twisted mind of an escapist who hates the Kingdom of God can there be a contradiction between setting your eyes in heaven and dispensing justice on earth. In the mind of a new-born Christian there is no contradiction – a Christian works out his heavenly faith on earth, and this is exactly what the meaning of James 2:14-26 is.

          As usual, escapism has failed to find support in the Bible.

        • Harmon Gottlieb says:

          You’ve created an “escapist” straw man to do your heavy fighting with scripture. You have him escaping the Reconstructionist “fullness” of Hebrews 11 to pursue a “faith without works,” to follow scripture’s lackluster practice of “pointing” to Christ, and to demonstrate a Kingdom-hating failure to work out “his heavenly faith on earth.”

          When this rhetorical sock puppet is done, however, you’re still left to brawl with the scriptures confirming that Christians are “strangers and pilgrims,” are ”looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith,” and are to set their affections “on things above, not on things on the earth.” You’re stuck with arguing “after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ (Colossians 2:8).

          Here’s one of your “escapists,” the apostle Paul, evading the ‘fullness’ of the ‘gospel’ of cultural change, and just ‘pointing’ to Christ, “For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified (1 Corinth. 2:2).” He expands this single-mindedness in Philippians 3:8-10: “Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death…”

          The facts in the Word of God are, “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away… Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. (2 Timothy 3:1-5,12,13).” Those facts, ‘pointing to Christ’ and the persistence of “this present evil world,” are displayed in 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10, “Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.”

          The facts on the ground for Post-millennial Reconstructionist, socio-cultural ‘christianizers’ are abortifacient President Obama saying, “I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (CT-Jan. 2008), Kinist Harry Seabrook writing, “This seeking of prosperity and distinctness for our European peoples is primarily to be achieved by conversion to the religion of our only Savior, Jesus Christ,” and Jim Owen singing “I Saw Jesus Waving the Stars and Stripes.”

        • Like I expected: many words, no explanation why the “strangers” of the Old Testament conquered kingdoms and dispensed justice. Escapist nonsense. Oh, and guilt by association.

          Keep it coming. It only proves our position more and more.

        • E Harris says:

          There are few things I enjoy more than a good discussion between Bojidar and Harmon!! Keep them coming!! Very enriching.

        • Harmon Gottlieb says:

          The explanation for “why the ‘strangers’ of the Old Testament conquered kingdoms and dispensed justice” is before your eyes in Hebrews 11:39,40; 12:1-3:

          “And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
          Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
          For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.”

          This summary of the history of the faithful in Hebrews 11 says nothing about activist, OT saints “judaizing” (reforming) the culture. In fact it rejoices in the “escapist nonsense” so offensive to your position, and ‘points’ to the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus and His ascension to Glory.

  9. Brian says:

    While I was reading this and the account he gave of the seminars and web pages he is bombarded with daily saying that it is going to happen and there is nothing we can do to stop it I realized I was very much like that. Then a REVELATION!! I have been given dominion in earth (Genesis 1:26-28). If I have all dominion then why can I not stop it? The answer is that we are in control and the only reason everything seems to be out of control is because we have dropped the ball and allowed the world system to run things instead the sons of God. We have dominion over the earth and all that is in it. When we finally decide to exercise our right given to us by our birth in Christ we will truly see drastic changes in people, governments and even our environment.

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