Comments on: Islam and Secular Humanism are Two Sides of the Same Coin http://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/ Thu, 24 May 2012 13:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: sammysizzlehttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8673 sammysizzle Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:13:15 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8673 You know what the problem with all you people is? You're all closed minded. You should travel abroad and domestically. Meet new people -muslims, christians, buddhists, atheists. What's with this prejudice thinking? You actually believe all muslims are terrorists? Really? 1.4 billion are only concerned with the spread of islam and muslim values and conquering the west? seriously? No I think most are concerned with earning a living, rasing their families, feeding them, educating them, and enjoying life. A minority, an angry minortiy for that matter, aims to conquer the world and shape it in accordance with their beliefs. There are good, decent people all over this world with all sorts of backgrounds. Stop lumping everyone into the same group and stop making these ridiculous generalizations. Sheesh. You know what the problem with all you people is? You're all closed minded. You should travel abroad and domestically. Meet new people -muslims, christians, buddhists, atheists. What's with this prejudice thinking?

You actually believe all muslims are terrorists? Really? 1.4 billion are only concerned with the spread of islam and muslim values and conquering the west? seriously? No I think most are concerned with earning a living, rasing their families, feeding them, educating them, and enjoying life.

A minority, an angry minortiy for that matter, aims to conquer the world and shape it in accordance with their beliefs.

There are good, decent people all over this world with all sorts of backgrounds. Stop lumping everyone into the same group and stop making these ridiculous generalizations. Sheesh.

]]> By: JEMhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8439 JEM Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:57:07 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8439 Bad argument. Timothy McVeigh is an isolated incident. Jihadists are not. Bad argument. Timothy McVeigh is an isolated incident. Jihadists are not.

]]> By: Billy Globe Warmerhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8360 Billy Globe Warmer Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:45:56 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8360 Being a former Roman Catholic, I dis agree. Islam and Roaman Catholicism are two sides of the same coin. You should write an article addressing that. If we were to debate this issue I would beat the author with a multitude of facts. Being a former Roman Catholic, I dis agree. Islam and Roaman Catholicism are two sides of the same coin. You should write an article addressing that. If we were to debate this issue I would beat the author with a multitude of facts.

]]> By: Dana Shawhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8354 Dana Shaw Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:22:45 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8354 Bajidar Marinov ; You wrote Romans 10: 6-8 incorrectly. KJV has it: 6. But the righteouness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (That is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7. Or, who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8. But what saith it. The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; Funny thing about the scriptures: fail to put all the words in changes the whole meaning of the verse. There can only be one true Church. Christ describes His church in the Old and New Testaments, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price. Even if you are not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints it would behoove you to do the proper research using all available resources. These resources are available to everyone. Just do your homework. I'm a simple God- fearing christian and I have read these books. Bajidar Marinov ; You wrote Romans 10: 6-8 incorrectly. KJV has it:
6. But the righteouness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (That is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7. Or, who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8. But what saith it. The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Funny thing about the scriptures: fail to put all the words in changes the whole meaning of the verse.
There can only be one true Church. Christ describes His church in the Old and New Testaments, The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price. Even if you are not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints it would behoove you to do the proper research using all available resources. These resources are available to everyone. Just do your homework. I'm a simple God- fearing christian and I have read these books.

]]> By: Bojidar Marinovhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8353 Bojidar Marinov Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:13:27 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8353 Nonsense. You claim to know more about Timothy McVeigh than McVeigh himself. In a letter just before his execution McVeigh declared he was an AGNOSTIC. He didn't go to church while in service during the Gulf War, and told his friends, "Science is my religion." <a href="http://www.tektonics.org/guest/mcveigh.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tektonics.org/guest/mcveigh.htm</a> <a href="http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=1189" rel="nofollow">http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=1189</a> If you are going to defend a position using lies, at least pick a lie that is not so blatantly obvious. You just destroyed your own position. Nonsense. You claim to know more about Timothy McVeigh than McVeigh himself.

In a letter just before his execution McVeigh declared he was an AGNOSTIC. He didn't go to church while in service during the Gulf War, and told his friends, "Science is my religion."
http://www.tektonics.org/guest/mcveigh.htm
http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=1189

If you are going to defend a position using lies, at least pick a lie that is not so blatantly obvious. You just destroyed your own position.

]]> By: Michael Cainhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8352 Michael Cain Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:32:38 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8352 yes and where is timothy now ???then shouldent the same apply to foreigners yes and where is timothy now ???then shouldent the same apply to foreigners

]]> By: Michael Cainhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8351 Michael Cain Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:30:05 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8351 There are a few trying things from with in. But when a complete nation is openly telling you that they will convert you or kill you then it should be obvious this is a national threat to the safety of all Americans wether at home or abroad/ yes and Hitler was a christian untill he decided to change to his way of thinking. any religion that denounces the existance of any direct bond with God is only a front to keeping the people in control . this makes them a lord of the religion and as such demands all the property rights. And as when in their holy book it says if a person is not muslim then they are an infidel and as such must be put to death; I say that is premateted murder or a conspiracy and as such should be grounds to arrest and sentence them to deportation for being a fellon. But please just do nothing and see. There are a few trying things from with in. But when a complete nation is openly telling you that they will convert you or kill you then it should be obvious this is a national threat to the safety of all Americans wether at home or abroad/ yes and Hitler was a christian untill he decided to change to his way of thinking. any religion that denounces the existance of any direct bond with God is only a front to keeping the people in control . this makes them a lord of the religion and as such demands all the property rights. And as when in their holy book it says if a person is not muslim then they are an infidel and as such must be put to death; I say that is premateted murder or a conspiracy and as such should be grounds to arrest and sentence them to deportation for being a fellon. But please just do nothing and see.

]]> By: Doug Wrighthttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8356 Doug Wright Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:54:50 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8356 I love that 'reformed', fundies, neo-cons all love to hate Islam. Shows why the supposed struggle against abortion, decay of the 'family' and all the other bull-is just that. Look at Iran, when we brought our American 'values' there and earned their undying opposition and led to the 'radical'(?) revolution. So many 'politicals' co-opting Christianity would have us believe that morality and solidarity are their goals(in short, what they criticize in Islam), but we all know it's a fraud. They want strong families, but only when they meet certian feminist/populist criteria. They decry abortion, but only when it's not their daughter or 'retarded' child that's in question...and even then to make it illegal is 'barbaric'. It's time to call B.S. on all ya' all. Every street corner and dvd repeats blasphemy on Christ, and we smile and go on. When Islam defends Muhomad we think it's a little provincial. May godd forbid; however, if any question the zionist narrative from WWI onward. It's really pathetic, you multiply words and all I see is a bunch of frauds. Semi-(pluralis)tic fruads. I love that 'reformed', fundies, neo-cons all love to hate Islam. Shows why the supposed struggle against abortion, decay of the 'family' and all the other bull-is just that. Look at Iran, when we brought our American 'values' there and earned their undying opposition and led to the 'radical'(?) revolution.
So many 'politicals' co-opting Christianity would have us believe that morality and solidarity are their goals(in short, what they criticize in Islam), but we all know it's a fraud. They want strong families, but only when they meet certian feminist/populist criteria. They decry abortion, but only when it's not their daughter or 'retarded' child that's in question…and even then to make it illegal is 'barbaric'.
It's time to call B.S. on all ya' all.
Every street corner and dvd repeats blasphemy on Christ, and we smile and go on. When Islam defends Muhomad we think it's a little provincial. May godd forbid; however, if any question the zionist narrative from WWI onward.
It's really pathetic, you multiply words and all I see is a bunch of frauds. Semi-(pluralis)tic fruads.

]]> By: jimhttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8350 jim Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:45:54 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8350 Hey Al , you either an idiot or you are a liar who thinks everyone else is. Timothy McVeigh was an anarchist.True, he was at best a nominal Catholic. He did not blow up the Federal Building in the name of Jesus or the Pope, unlike the people who flew airplanes into the world trade center who said they were doing it for Islam. I heard lots of so called Islamic religious leaders praise the bombings! I never heard any Christian or Jewish or Hindu etc etc say McVeigh was doing Gods will. Hey Al , you either an idiot or you are a liar who thinks everyone else is. Timothy McVeigh was an anarchist.True, he was at best a nominal Catholic. He did not blow up the Federal Building in the name of Jesus or the Pope, unlike the people who flew airplanes into the world trade center who said they were doing it for Islam. I heard lots of so called Islamic religious leaders praise the bombings! I never heard any Christian or Jewish or Hindu etc etc say McVeigh was doing Gods will.

]]> By: Al Bodehttp://americanvision.org/3391/islam-and-secular-humanism-are-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/comment-page-1/#comment-8345 Al Bode Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:54:28 +0000 http://americanvision.org/?p=3391#comment-8345 Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. He killed 168 people in Oklahoma City in April, 1995. How many Christian houses of worship were built in Oklahoma City after that act of domestic terrorism? Or is terrorism okay if it is a Christian, but not okay if it comes from a muslim? Oh, I see. Freedom of religion and worship is only applicable to Christians, just like the freedom to kill through terrorism. I guess I missed that part of the Constitution. Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.
He killed 168 people in Oklahoma City in April, 1995.
How many Christian houses of worship were built in Oklahoma City after that act of domestic terrorism?
Or is terrorism okay if it is a Christian, but not okay if it comes from a muslim?
Oh, I see. Freedom of religion and worship is only applicable to Christians, just like the freedom to kill through terrorism.
I guess I missed that part of the Constitution.

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