Palin’s tortured theology

Mrs. Palin just can’t seem to get things right. She apologizes when she shouldn’t, and remains silent when she should.

A few months ago, Palin called Pope Francis “liberal” (gasp!), and she was pilloried by the press. In a very PC minuet, she quickly spun and apologized. It was a joke. Pope Frank is influenced by Liberation Theology which is in fact Marxist, despite proclaiming, in a suspiciously timely fashion, that Marxist ideology is wrong.

Never mind the fact that one of his first papal actions was to invite Gustavo Gutierrez—father of Liberation Theology—to dine with him in Rome. Never mind the fact that the very “apostolic proclamation” in question calls “politics . . . one of the highest forms of charity,” and prays for “politicians” as well as “government leaders and financial leaders” who will “broaden their horizons, working to ensure that all citizens have dignified work, education and healthcare.”

Government . . . charity . . . health care? Nah, not liberal at all.

Palin should have gone into attack mode and exposed the leftism inherent in the Roman Catholic Church’s forays into social theory. Instead, she caved.

Now she’s not only caving to PC pressures, but cheapening her own conservative evangelical tradition further than it has been. The latest is reported by The New American as “part of a long harangue about lily-livered liberals, delivered in such a way that makes Archie Bunker sound like Cicero.” She’s now being blasted from several angles for saying this:

Oh, but you can’t offend them, can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.

Wow. No matter how bad Islam may be, what Christian would stoop so low as to cheapen and denigrate the faith in order to advocate torturing them? TNA’s comments are apropos:

OK, stop. Not only is this woman, putatively a Christian, praising torture, but she is comparing it to a holy sacrament of the Christian faith. It’s disgusting — but even more disgusting, those NRA members, many of whom are no doubt Christians, cheered wildly for her.

I agree, as the author goes on to say, that Palin and all those who ignorantly cheered her comments ought to be ashamed of themselves. What they really do in comments like this is to show, despite all their packed-out megachurches, swayin’ with the music, and lovin’ Jeeesus, how theologically shallow they are.

Repentance, not celebration, is in order.

Moreover, this is why the wedding between political conservatism and the religious right in general can be so dangerous: the political powers-that-be end up shaping the religious ethos and not vice versa. Waterboarding becomes a greater value that new birth and baptism: the prior becomes policy, the latter a mere useful metaphor for the policy.

Instead of the Bible shaping culture, culture begins contorting the meanings of biblical values. Instead of biblical law shaping policy, even the most controversial of policies has the power to metastasize into biblical values.

Our city on a hill is transformed into Palin Nation instead of Christian America.

I never bought into the Palin hype or myth. But this latest nonsense is indicative of the deep sickness in the heart of American conservatism. Unhinged from biblical law, and indeed frightful of it, it has produced little but thoughtlessness and tyranny. This is the long-term result of the religious right running from the most important distinctive of Christian Reconstruction for forty years.

It’s so bad that Evangelicalism ends up bowing to a liberal Pope and praising torture. What’s next for Palin Nation?

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237 comments
Ilya Zaretsky
Ilya Zaretsky

Why the Fu*ck is this on my Facebook page? Get thus Libtard BS off of here!

Adam Todd
Adam Todd

This author seems quite dim witted and/or dishonest and lacking a sense of humor. One, water boarding isn't torture. Many of our own service men get water boarded as a part of training. Two, she was making a joke about how overly concerned we are about offending Islamic terrorists. I have a feeling no matter what Palin does this guy would have something negative to say about her.

Doug McAdams
Doug McAdams

First I get a "Have you injured yourself with a table saw" ad for some lawyer and now this crap............what am I doing wrong????????/

Jonathan Philbeck
Jonathan Philbeck

“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me” (Luke 19:27). “Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors [basanistais, torturers], till he should pay all that was due unto him” (Matt. 18:32-34). “And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain” (Rev. 16:10). “Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matt. 22:13).

Jonathan Philbeck
Jonathan Philbeck

The version of waterboarding the CIA did on 3 terrorist isnt Torture. The version of waterboarding of the WW2 Japanese or Spanish Inquisition was.

Jesus Guerrero
Jesus Guerrero

Incase these liberals didn't study their history, our founding fathers based out constitution on Judeo-Christian values

Eulisesjesu Montero
Eulisesjesu Montero

Just wait to see what happens when the system will fall and it will be free trade all politicians in jail for life for there inhuman acts as it will happen all over the world freedom will finally come to the citizens of earth no more oil electricity bills free energy but all oppose this BC they are scared I rather be free then to be a paid slave to a corrupt and evil system ran by religion even tho they say its separate open your eyes

Eulisesjesu Montero
Eulisesjesu Montero

Its not the so called Christians but Catholic Jesuits the Nazis ,IBM ,corperations laws everyone is being miss led

Anthony Sinecoff
Anthony Sinecoff

I'm more concerned about conservatives after reading these comments than I was after reading the article. The lady compared a holy sacrament to water boarding.

Michael Caristo
Michael Caristo

The Looney Lefty Libitards are getting their panties in a bunch again.

Jeremy Grant
Jeremy Grant

Facebook stop promoting liberalism communist bs in my feed

Bryce Blay
Bryce Blay

If you want a look a tyranny look at your Marxist left of the us government.

Sayad Khan
Sayad Khan

You know what's worse? Driving a foreign car, then talking about what's good for the country. Not a single Fiat is manufactured here in the USA.

Marsha Smith-Hamilton
Marsha Smith-Hamilton

Poor Sarah has about as much religion as a snake has hips... She's so fake she doesn't recognize herself in the mirror.

Donovan Hubbard
Donovan Hubbard

ah, folks like John Locke and Fred Bastiat form the modern conception of what a republic is, but i'm sure they are just some wako birds ;)

Ray Behnke
Ray Behnke

Mike did you just say the american vision was very american?

Johnny Meers
Johnny Meers

Need no education to figure this one out

Johnny Meers
Johnny Meers

Sponsored. Someone paid big bucks to bash her. Wow

Jesse Van Brakel
Jesse Van Brakel

I really hate these stupid sponsored ads that show up in my feed... This was one of the most ignorant articles I have ever had the displeasure of reading. I really think I may have lost a few IQ points just reading this.. Go back to school and study about all the different theologies before you just throw around big words to make yourself sound credible

Don Medlin
Don Medlin

I have no idea how this sissified page got on my time line and I am not crazy for Palin, but I have no problem with water boarding some islamic waste of life.

Jimmy Pera
Jimmy Pera

It's a mute point. We cannot under the Geneva Convention torture an Enemy "Soldier".... But under the convention you can legally Shoot a terrorist or spy on sight. Article 6 Para 1-6 states the legal way about enemy combatants. Giving them quarter is a privilege not a right, since they are War Criminals "Terrorists" Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy: 1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces. 2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfill the following conditions: (a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; (c) That of carrying arms openly; (d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. 3. Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power. 4. Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labor units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed model. 5. Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not benefit by more favorable treatment under any other provisions of international law. 6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war. B. The following shall likewise be treated as prisoners of war under the present Convention: 1. Persons belonging, or having belonged, to the armed forces of the occupied country, if the occupying Power considers it necessary by reason of such allegiance to intern them, even though it has originally liberated them while hostilities were going on outside the territory it occupies, in particular where such persons have made an unsuccessful attempt to rejoin the armed forces to which they belong and which are engaged in combat, or where they fail to comply with a summons made to them with a view to internment. 2. The persons belonging to one of the categories enumerated in the present Article, who have been received by neutral or non-belligerent Powers on their territory and whom these Powers are required to intern under international law, without prejudice to any more favorable treatment which these Powers may choose to give and with the exception of Articles 8, 10, 15, 30, fifth paragraph, 58-67, 92, 126 and, where diplomatic relations exist between the Parties to the conflict and the neutral or non-belligerent Power concerned, those Articles concerning the Protecting Power. Where such diplomatic relations exist, the Parties to a conflict on whom these persons depend shall be allowed to perform towards them the functions of a Protecting Power as provided in the present Convention, without prejudice to the functions which these Parties normally exercise in conformity with diplomatic and consular usage and treaties. C. This Article shall in no way affect the status of medical personnel and chaplains as provided for in Article 33 of the present Convention.

Billy Nightingale
Billy Nightingale

how does this tyrannical freedom hating liberal loving treasonous supporting pages bullcrap keep ending up on my feed

Gary Clem
Gary Clem

You trash Sarah Palin and we have the likes of Barrack Obama as our president ? He 's not only unqualified , he's disgusting and by far the most dangerous man ever to occupy the office !!

Soup McGee
Soup McGee

- thanks for calling her out. #nicetosee

Alan Posey
Alan Posey

Why is this page on my time line? This is crap. Libs are the worst thing for this country.

Nathan Davis
Nathan Davis

The only part of the Bible that law should be based on is the part where we are told not to judge each other. The Bible is a book all about personal accountability, and love thy neighbor. When we write law based on personal beliefs, that do not give equality and freedom to all humans in equal portion, we are writing the wrong laws, and people need to stand up and un-write them immediately... The "conservative" party in the US, isn't... and it hasn't been for a very long time. Conservatism is supposed to be based on limited government and personal freedom. It has nothing to do with religion or morality, and rightly so! What the modern conservative party does is just shout the exact opposite message at who they have defined as "the other side" and pat themselves on the back for a job well done. They both increase spending, increase the tax burden on us, and increase the number of laws that infringe on our freedom and privacy. They both destroy our rights and both claim they are morally right in doing so... They both need to go....

Steven Balaz
Steven Balaz

The Saracuda herself has responded to the criticism on her own FB page: "Actions to stop terrorists who’d utterly annihilate America and delight in massacring our innocent children? Darn right I’d do whatever it takes to foil their murderous jihadist plots – including waterboarding. Whatever one thinks of my one-liner at the NRA rally about treating evil terrorists the way they deserve to be treated to prevent the death of innocent people, it’s utterly absurd for MSNBC to suggest that I could put our beloved troops in harm’s way, but we’ve come to expect the absurd from that failing network. If you want to talk about what really harms our troops, let’s talk about politicians who gut our military’s budgets, or a president whose skewed budgetary priorities slash military benefits, or an administration that puts our vets on endless waiting lists for care that comes too late to help those who’ve paid the price for our freedom, or those who break bread with those who think it makes no difference how our military heroes died in Benghazi or anywhere else trying to protect America. Those actions are a heck of a lot more harmful than declaring an appropriate message our enemies should receive. If some overly sensitive wusses took offense, remember the First Amendment doesn’t give you a right not to be offended."

Shawn Moraca
Shawn Moraca

Where is that found is the Bible? You know, the thing we study to find theology

Joel McDurmon
Joel McDurmon

All politics is religion. All law is theology, goof.

Shawn Moraca
Shawn Moraca

This whole article is agenda based. The proposed conclusion is based entirely off of a joke used in a manner to rile up her supporters, which is what all politicians do. I would try and "look at the theology Joel but you didn't post anything about theology... You posted about politics. Theology is the study of God and his nature. You are guilty of many fallacies in this argument and need to realize the importance of honest writing. If wish to rip a figure apart in something you know will be widely read at least play fair. The lack of this shows just how political and NOT religious this post really is.

Terry Allen
Terry Allen

And there lies the whole idea of face book and the media...I feel that if you use your First Amendment rights to state your opinion, others may use their First Amendment rights to disagree with it in any manner that they want.....unless the PC police show up...

Zachary B. Lee
Zachary B. Lee

Looks like none of these bashing commenters have read Joel's book "Restoring America One County at a Time." If you want solutions go read that book. Although I will say that you probably won't like the solutions if you like Sarah Palin and the other establishment Republicans and neocons.

John Scott Taylor
John Scott Taylor

This page is stupid...and I weren't stupid I'd figure out how to remove it from my Facebook.

Paul Logue
Paul Logue

And here lies the problem with our society. One person speaks out their opinion and those who disagree go bashing as if it were a personal opinion of them. Yet when someone that society favors speaks their opinion it becomes gospel.

Zach Cramer
Zach Cramer

It's torture weather u believe or not

David Gobart
David Gobart

Just because this administration calls water boarding torture does not make it so. I find her unqualified but for different reasons. To whine about her statement about handling terrorists should not be one of them.

Jim Betterton
Jim Betterton

American Vision does not speak for me. I hope some people would start reaching the lost instead of preaching who's right or wrong. You are not a voice for the "true" body of Christ!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Bahr
Mark Bahr

How about by first recognizing that church history did not begin with Constantine's conversion.

Terry Elston
Terry Elston

Well said. Needs to be stated again and again.